STATE OF THE UNION WITH CANDY CROWLEY
Interview With Jim DeMint; Interview With Jim Hoffa; Interview With Sen. Lieberman, Rep. Mike Rogers
Aired September 4, 2011 - 09:00 ET
CROWLEY: Let me ask you a question. I talked to a former top official in the intelligence community who said, "I'm not that worried about the mustard gas because there is not any sign at all that he could deliver anything with mustard gas."
What worried this official were those shoulder-launched...
CROWLEY: ... missiles. And he said, one terrorists gets one of those and he can bring down a plane, period, end of story. And there are hundreds of them. What do you know about the whereabouts -- are we trying to track that in any way?
LIEBERMAN: Well, we're -- we're tracking that very carefully. And we're working with the new government of Libya, which is, I would say, Western-oriented. They're nationalistic, but they're of course grateful to NATO, because they know, without NATO, including the U.S., they would not have overthrown Gadhafi. They were the boots on the ground, but we were their allies and supporters.
And we're working with them to try to secure both the mustard gas and the munitions that I worry would fall otherwise in the hand of enemies of the U.S., including terrorists.
But it's very important to say here that one of the bonuses, believe it or not, of the Iraq war, was that Gadhafi got scared he would be next, and he came in from the cold, as it were, and agreed to get rid of a lot of highly enriched uranium and other weapons of mass destruction that he had, so there's fortunately less for us to protect now than there would have been. ROGERS: And, again, my concern has been, again, that's what the next few weeks is important, what are we doing to secure those weapons systems?
CROWLEY: What are we doing?
ROGERS: Well, we have a very unique capability in the United States. And we've got to shake ourselves out of this notion that NATO is going to do it all or the TNC is going to do it all.
CROWLEY: We're not as involved as you'd like us to be?
ROGERS: I would like us to be more involved.
And I'm not talking about boots on the ground or big military. We need to use our special capabilities that really only the United States has to secure, account for those weapons and render them safe. And we need to do it now.
I will tell you Al Qaida and other terrorist organizations identified by the State are very interested in getting their hands on those missile systems, other weapons, even the chemical stockpile precursors. All of that we know is happening. The race is on. This is a race we should win. We shouldn't debate if we need to have special capabilities on the ground there to take care of that particular problem.
CROWLEY: And -- and the fact is, it's, sort of, chaotic there, and inside chaos, you can grab a lot.
I have to end it...
ROGERS: In the black market. I do worry about that stuff getting legs and walking...
LIEBERMAN: No, that's always the danger. Again, I'd say that the new Libyan government is moving to create stability -- very important for us to help them get Gadhafi, and then to encourage them to create a government that doesn't punish everybody who was on the other side, but creates unity.
There are tough days ahead. But what they have done is a tremendous victory in getting rid of Gadhafi. And it's very important throughout the Arab world.
CROWLEY: Senator Joe Lieberman, Congressman Mike Rogers, thank you both for being here and happy Labor Day.